[Mkguild] Metamor Keep Group Painting Complete

christian okane chrisokane at optimum.net
Sat Dec 13 02:03:36 UTC 2014


Ah!

 I see. Then that was a miscommunication! 


Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org
[mailto:mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org] On Behalf Of C. Matthias
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:50 AM
To: christian okane; mkguild at lists.integral.org
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Metamor Keep Group Painting Complete

The issue is that Ermine, like most artists, has set standards of 
quality that we put into pictures depending on the price.   We paid 
for a Silver-level painting, and even before we asked for the windows to be
filled in, she had told me she had placed Gold-level effort into the work.

That said, I believe she is being understanding considering this is a group
commission and people can be very difficult to get to agree, but I think we
need to be careful of that for our next collaboration because art takes a
lot of work.  Backgrounds are in fact usually the most expensive and
difficult thing for most artists too; keep that in mind!

Once again, her email is ermineart at gmail.com

May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,

Charles Matthias


At 12:55 AM 12/12/2014, christian okane wrote:
>The picture is fantastic and well worth the effort!
>
>    I do apologize if we upset her but we were paying for product and 
>were not happy. I do not understand how asking for a small change was 
>so much trouble. Having dealt with the buying public I can tell you we 
>were VERY mild. But Still I apologize if we upset her. And what is her 
>email so I can thank her?
>
>    And I really wouldn't mind having her do other art. But perhaps we 
>can have another artist do the next one.
>
>Chris
>The Lurking Fox
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org
>[mailto:mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org] On Behalf Of C. Matthias
>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:08 PM
>To: mkguild at lists.integral.org
>Subject: [Mkguild] Metamor Keep Group Painting Complete
>
>Fellow Keepers, our first Metamor Keep Group Painting is now Complete!
>Ermine has graciously included two sizes:
>
>small: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2i83hd6djngbk24/metamor_keep3.jpg?dl=0
>large:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/avol7el1r0zeob4/metamor_keep_large1.jpg?dl=0
>
>As can be seen, this is very appropriate for a banner.
>
>Everyone should take the time to send Ermine a personal email thanking 
>her for all of the extra effort she put into this.  Her email is 
>ermineart at gmail.com
>
>Also, we were very unprofessional towards Ermine at a few points in 
>this process.  Yes, this is a group effort and we did a great job 
>raising the money and all, but when it came to settling on details and 
>asking for changes we really pushed Ermine far beyond what she had 
>expected for the price we paid.  Asking for the extra background 
>details at the end upset her and we should have known better.  I blame 
>myself for misunderstanding her email (Ermine was really asking if 
>people's clothing colors were right, or anything small that could be 
>easily changed, not more background stuff), but seriously, we need to 
>get our act together before we try to get another group picture going.
>
>And by getting our act together I mean we actually agree on details for 
>both characters, scene, and background up front.  This nonsense where 
>people toss out ideas after the picture is already done will not happen 
>again.  I would love to commission Ermine again as she does fantastic 
>work.  And if you do too you had best send her a personal email and 
>thank her for going not just one extra mile but three for us.
>
>But, we have our first picture now so please everyone savor it!
>
>May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,
>
>Charles Matthias
>
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