[Mkguild] Problems with the archive website

christian okane chrisokane at optimum.net
Tue Jul 21 17:19:13 UTC 2015


Well considering that the archive has been thru 3 admins and is almost a decade old there are bound to be problems.

 

   Chris

   The Lurking Fox

 

From: mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org [mailto:mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org] On Behalf Of Alex Green
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:02 PM
To: C. Matthias
Cc: mkguild at lists.integral.org
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Problems with the archive website

 

It's not exactly what I'd call a fix. The site should be readable by the end user without them having to do anything out of the ordinary. 

-AlexSurikat

On Jul 19, 2015 3:51 PM, "C. Matthias" <jagille3 at vt.edu> wrote:

Okay, I gave that a try and it worked.  Weird!  Thanks for letting me know how to fix it.

May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,

Charles Matthias

At 11:12 AM 7/19/2015, Alex Green wrote:

To me, it seems the issue is one of character encoding. The browser expects the data to be encoded as UTF-8, but it's actually being sent as iso-8859-1. If you have Firefox, go to view -> character encoding, and select western. The page renders as it's supposed to.Â

That's not to say that the line breaks shouldn't be there, but they've always been there. Removing them will make most of the diamonds disappear, but there are characters like the apostrophes that still won't render correctly.Â

I'm not sure what could have changed to cause this. Most likely the configurations for the web server have changed so that now the server is serving pages as UTF-8 where it use to be serving them as iso-8859-1. Although, when I look through the HTML, I see two separate meta tags. The first sets the character set as iso-8859-1, and the second changes it to UTF-8. Removing that second meta tag might fix the issue, but I don't have enough practical experience with HTML to know for sure.Â

-AlexSurikat

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Vineyard <<mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>dimensional42 at gmail.com> wrote:
I've taken a look at the files. Apparently the files were uploaded with line breaks where there aren't suppose to. That's what is causing the issues. To give a good example, when I'm looking at the file, I'm seeing that instead of having everything between the <p> </p> on the same line, where you see the "?" is where there's a line break in the file. It'll be a big task to fix it all, do to the complexity.


On 7/19/2015 6:25 AM, C. Matthias wrote:

I have a different issue with the Metamor Keep Archive.

It appears that a lot of the stories are showing various special characters as diamonds with "?" inside them.  This is extremely off-putting and renders stories difficult to read.  I suspect some of them are quote characters, en-dashes, and so forth.  This is showing up with both FireFox and Safari.  It is especially bad in my story Inchoate Carillon, Inconstant Cuckold.Â

Somebody definitely ought to take a look into that!  It wasn't at all like this two weeks ago the last time I checked.

May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,

Charles Matthias

At 03:13 PM 7/18/2015, Virmir wrote:

Hello!

Yes, that was merely a google custom search page.  I'm sure the syntax has changed throughout the years.  It looks like the service is still offered, so it's probably just a matter of setting up a new one. <https://cse.google.com/cse/>https://cse.google.com/cse/

Regarding the domain, I do own and pay for <http://metamorkeep.com>metamorkeep.com. This is no big deal since it is a pittance, however if someone else more active in the community would like to take up ownership, I certainly wouldn't have any problem with that (I have like seven of these things anyway).  Whoever takes it would have to promise to be super attentive and pay the bill on time to avoid a <http://transform.to>transform.to situation though.  ;)

Somewhat related--I actually have the domain pointing to my nameservers before it goes to Xepher.  This gives us a little more control in case people have their own sites or blogs and want to use a subdomain or something. E.g. <http://mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com>mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Alex Green <<mailto:alexsurikat at gmail.com>alexsurikat at gmail.com> wrote:
The first problem Chris mentioned was a php error. A variable, Counter, was being accessed before it had been defined. I haven't run into it, so it looks like whatever caused it has gone away for now.Â
The second problem is that the search feature provided by Google has stopped working. I haven't been able to figure this one out. At first glance, it appears there is a lot of stuff in the search URL that shouldn't be there, but even after deleting it and trying to manually rerun it, the error persists. In that case, the reason it failed might be that the account that the search feature was tied to has been deleted, but this is all conjecture as I am totally unfamiliar with how Google's custom search feature works.Â
It might be worth it to ask Virmir about this one as he set it up and might remember how to do it again.Â
P.S. I find it funny that both Chris and my test searches were related as we both searched for or respective species.Â
-AlexSurikat
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Andrew Vineyard <<mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>dimensional42 at gmail.com > wrote:
I'm looking at the site, but I'm not seeing anything wrong with it. I'm getting access to it and everything. It may have been a slight hiccup in the server engine. I'll still look into it and see what might be the problem, but it appears that whatever was happening was simply a connection error.
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