<div>Using switchbacks nearly any cliff face is traversable.  For example, the Bright Angel trail descends over 3000 feet using more than 4 miles of switchbacks into the Grand Canyon and both sides of the trail are about as close to vertical as you can get, one side being cliff face the other, empty space.  This, of course, by no means says Metamors cliffs need be so severe.  Even a 45 degree slope would negate most any seige engine while still allowing foot traffic.</div> <div> </div> <div>I must confess the idea of the majority of the town being destroyed is my fault.  I was under the impression that it had been and told Michal so when he requested info at the begining of this whole thing.  Obviously I was wrong and apologise to everyone for that mistake.</div> <div> </div> <div>As for where the festival is, just because it was inside the keep before, doesn't mean it can't be moved outside this time.  Mayhap the reconstruction effort forced the relocation what with supplies taking up the areas formerly used.</div> <div> </div> <div>John Burman aka Fox Marine "C. Matthias" <jagille3@vt.edu> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I think that's a complete load of hooey. This sounds to me like somebody putting information in the Wiki without having ever read any of the stories most of us have written. In Winter Assault, I had Sir Saulius and Sir Egland chase Sir Bryonoth riding Duke Thomas down the castle side of the ridge. They took switchbacks the whole way, so it was steep, but there is no way it was that steep or that big a drop. I have never imagined that there was nearly so much difficulty in merchants bringing their wares into Metamor itself. If we are going to make that the case, a lot of the details in my stories set in Metamor town can be thrown out, and pretty much all my plans for the future can be thrown out too. Personally, I'd throw out the ideas of people who aren't bothering to write in the setting, but feel the need to populate the Wiki with details nobody has used. > > The Festival grounds tend to be inside the curtain wll, as has been > > established in previous tales. You know the merchants are going to > > want to go where the people are to sell their wares. > >It is also stated in the Wiki under the map of the keep that "Metamor Town" >is crammed with buildings. Crammed with buildings does not a Festival >Grounds allow. The Wiki also states that the commons (fields for festivals >etc.) are outside the keep and Euper. I always saw the festival grounds as being in the Killing Fields, and have written such for previous festivals. In fact, Kamau had done up some schematics on the size of the Killing Fields. Two of the pictures he did to provide its dimensions are linked below: http://transform.to/~mattyrat/images/MK%20Front%20Ward.JPG http://transform.to/~mattyrat/images/MK%20Front%20Ward-Arc.JPG >Now, given that "Metamor Town" is largely burned, I've left about half of it >as either surviving and repaired, or rebuilt, and the rest as "levelled and >removed" for materials, and for safety. Thus, there now IS a commons area >inside "Metamor Town". There is also a market just inside the Killing >Fields where the farmers can stop dragging their carts and just sell stuff >:) Do any of you even listen to me when I post things? I have sent several posts on this subject, but I haven't noticed one acknowledgement to any of my contributions to this discussion! I pointed out that I felt it unrealistic to assume that most of the town had been burned. Sections yes, but many sections would have been unharmed. Incidentally, I burned down Gregor's Bakery (though Charles helped them rebuild part of it in Wagging Tongues Will). By Festival time, it would have been rebuilt. >What I think the intent is, is that the big caravans just go to Euper. >There is an unloading whereas local merchants lug the stuff up to the keep >proper and sell it to the "rich Metamorans". Regardless, due to the stated >geography, it is a fair trip, at least an hour with a loaded cart given the >slope. No, no, no!!!!! Some can go to Euper, yes, but I think a lot would go to Metamor, because they can ask a higher price for their wares. Given that the Metmaorians would have to pay to have it brought up into the city walls one way or another, why shouldn't the merchant enjoy the extra income? May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, Charles Matthias _______________________________________________ MKGuild mailing list MKGuild@lists.integral.org http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild </BLOCKQUOTE> <hr size=1>Never miss a thing. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs"> Make Yahoo your homepage.</a>