On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Christian Okane <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chrisokane@verizon.net">chrisokane@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the comments but I will admit to being a little
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'll try to explain.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<a href="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Skylos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:25 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mkguild] Proposed redesign of the Mages' Guild Tower</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Based on what I'm reading, it
sounds like its a mobius hallway - if you run in a clockwise direction, you
won't be running uphill, you won't run downhill, but your ears will pop and you
will find yourself entering the entrance hall from the other side.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Does this mean that if you have
a destination that is halfway up the tower and the loop is a mile long, you
always have to walk half a mile to get there and half a mile to get back to the
entrance hall? (guessing at scale from image) <span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">>>></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">No... you
access the upper and lower levels without physically having to move up or down,
You just walk on the level hallway. That's what the hallway thing means, thus
It does not eliminate the point of using a tower as you pointed out
yourself that it's an efficient use of space.</span><br>
<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I don't mean the three dimensional utilization of space, I mean the efficiency of moving around the tower. But because its linear you don't have the folding effect - in an actual tower you have a choice. EITHER I go up the stairs OR I go around the hallway. You are saying I cannot go up the stairs. If I need to go to the fifth level, I have to walk all the way around the tower five times</div>
<div><br></div><div>For instance, lets say the hallway is 200 feet per circuit and the tower is 10 mage layers high. (20 actual due to the interlacing).</div><div><br></div><div>In a conventional tower design, this puts me some 20 to 30 feet between floors for a 200 foot high tower. If I go up stairs between floors, its 30 feet. To get to the fifth level, I have to go up 5 flights of conventional stairs for a transit distance of 150 feet, plus up to 100 feet on the final floor (walking around the tower either direction) to get from entrance hall to destination. maximum travel distance from entrance hall to destination, 250 feet - available hallway to have rooms along is just under 2000 feet along 10 corridors. Not bad! I'll give that an 8 efficiency rating (2000/250=8)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Now lets look at this mage tower's effectiveness. There are no stairs. If I want to get to the start of the second level I have to walk 200 feet. The Third, 400, etc. To get to the fifth level, I have to walk 1000 feet - not a ramp, as you say, but still five circuits of the tower. Maximum distance from the entrance hall to destination, 1000 feet - four times as far as the conventional tower. I'll give that a 2 efficiency rating (2000/1000) despite the fact the corridor is arranged in a tower, i cannot use the folding. one quarter the movement efficiency.</div>
<div><br>Now lets compare that to a single loop, 2000 feet long. Think of it like a city block. sized massive hole so you can't enter the middle of the block.. You place a single line of rooms around the track at the edge of the massive hole. Divide it into 10 equal part 200 foot sections (the floors) and place the entrance hall at an arbitrary point. In order to get to any particular destination, you have to walk up to 1000 feet - one way or the other around the hole - four times as far as the conventional tower. an identical movement efficiency to not being in a tower at all.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The point of using a tower is that the distance from Floor A Staircase 1 to Floor B Staircase 1 is 30 feet, not 200 feet. </div><div><br></div><div>Your tower as I understand it is four times harder to move around in by distance than a tower with stairs *despite* its use of 3 dimensional space.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Do you understand?</div><div><br></div><div>Skylos</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>"If only I could get rid of hunger by rubbing my belly" - Diogenes<div><br></div><div><br></div><br>
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