<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Let's try this:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The banner of Metamor itself, alone, not withstanding of the ruling House is a castle of three towers, below each a gate. Gray on green (castle stone, valley green). The shape of the banner itself is up to the tailor making it.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Duke Thomas' banner is a stallion (or just horse)
rampant dexter (rearing, facing right) with a bend sinister (bar, crossing opposite the rampant dexter). The banner itself is blue (for House Hassan), the horse typically red (for his Knighthood), but when placed on the banner of Metamor the horse may be blue. The top of either banner would have crenelations or 'embattled line' to indicate the fortress nature of Metamor. The remeberance of the Tree Gates may be included below the horse by some symbology on more complex banners. Usually just three free-standing castle-style arched portals at the feet of the horse, or slightly behind denoting that the Horse, and House Hassan, holds the Keep.<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Historically blue meant Truth and Loyalty, and red Martial arms. Since Thomas rules over a peaceful kingdom over a conquesting one blue would be a more appropriate color. (http://www.oshel.com/symbols.htm)<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The adoption of the horse heraldry is new, chosen after the Curse. Previous to that it could've been anything (I know little of the Hassan house history;
griffon or drake would seem likely).</span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alex Green <alexsurikat@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> C. Matthias <jagille3@vt.edu> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> christian okane <chrisokane@optimum.net>; "mkguild@lists.integral.org" <mkguild@lists.integral.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:34 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mkguild] possible MK banner/logo<br> </font> </div>
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<div id="yiv385104496"><div dir="ltr"><div>After searching through the archives for a while, I was surprised to find that there aren't very many descriptions of the banner of Metamor. </div><div><br></div>I found the most complete description at the bottom of the third page of Misha's "Plain and Simple"<div>
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Thomas looked to the top of the ruined tower and noticed the flag fluttering in the breeze. It was a black flag with a red rearing horse on it. It was the flag of the House Hassan, Duke of Metamor, King of the Midland, his own banner.<br>
</blockquote></div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"></span></div><div><br></div><div>LurkingWolf's "Burning Time" also mention a rearing horse on the flag but neglects to mention the colors</div>
<div><br></div><div>It appears Matt is the only one who's described it as a horse-head in both "Gazing through a Barred Window" and "Healing Wounds in Arabarb", but I didn't see any mention of colors from him either. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Raven didn't mention what was on the flag, but he had a different idea about the colors of Metamor in "A Presence of Thieves"</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">
<blockquote class="yiv385104496gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">"That isn't the Duke's banner," he said, frowning up at the yellow flags flapping in the breeze. "Metamor's colors are blue and white. Why would they be flying yellow flags?"<br>
</blockquote></div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"></span></div><div><br></div><div>Matt confirms that blue is a customary color of the Hassan family in the first interlude of "The Last Tale of Yajakali" with several mentions of "Hassan Blue" but never actually states whether it's the color of the banner or not. (By the way, I just noticed that the title at the top of every page of LOTY has Yajakali spelled wrong as "Yajikali")</div>
<div><br></div><div>The wiki unsurprisingly agrees with Misha since he's the one who added that information on the "Knights of the Red Stallion" page on the 16th of January 2007 (it specifically says that their emblem is the same as the Duke's). He also added the emblem information to the Duke's page earlier this month. </div>
<div class="yiv385104496gmail_extra"><br><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">That is all of the information I could find relating to the flag/banner/emblem of the House of Hassan/Metamor Keep, s</span><font face="arial, sans-serif">o it seems the it is a red/blue rearing-stallion/horse-head on a black/white background. I never noticed how inconsistent its description was before. </font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style=""><font face="arial, sans-serif">-AlexSurikat</font></div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"></span><br><br><div class="yiv385104496gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:00 AM, C. Matthias <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jagille3@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:jagille3@vt.edu">jagille3@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv385104496gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>At 03:40 AM 2/21/2013, christian okane wrote:<br>
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That is a nice looking emblem but one small problem. The Horse in the emblem has always been red.<br>
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Chris<br>
The Lurking Fox<br>
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The only reference to red in the emblem that I am aware of comes from the knightly order "Order of the Red Stallion". Please provide other official references (Wiki entries do not count).<div><br>
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