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<hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Andrew Vineyard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com"><dimensional42@gmail.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
Ryx <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com"><sundansyr@yahoo.com></a> <br>
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Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:09 PM<br>
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Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem<br>
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<div class="yiv5634832986moz-cite-prefix">Ah. Need
someone to forward it to the mailing list?<br>
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On 7/30/2013 7:29 PM, Ryx wrote:<br>
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<div>No, it did not reply-all from my phone. </div>
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From: Andrew Vineyard <a rel="nofollow"
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Date: 07/30/2013 6:56 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>
To: Ryx <a rel="nofollow"
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Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem <br>
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<div class="yiv5634832986moz-cite-prefix">Was
this sent to the mkguild mail list too? I
didn't see it there.<br>
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On 7/30/2013 6:13 PM, Ryx wrote:<br>
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<div>Considering dragons are very real in MK,
and Nasoj is not currently allied with any
nor has any in his service adopting a dragon
on his heraldry might attract undue
attention from dragons not pleased at his
arrogance.</div>
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<div>I propose something of a different, more
mystical, nature. Either a wyvern
(identifiable as such by the scorpion
stinger on the tail), or more fantasic still
in the form of a three-headed chimeric beast
similar to griffon heraldry of old.</div>
<div>Each head would signify a different
auspice: corporeal power, divine or
infernal power (Ba'al's sole nod on the
heraldry), and arcane power. Secondary
heraldric symbols might be used as well to
denote Nasoj's House, which is pretty much
that exact symbol since whatever the Dark
Keep was before his ascension has been
effectively wiped out entirely.</div>
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<div>Nasoj would not be foolish enough to put
a daedric symbol directly on his kingdom's
heraldry as that would incur the wrath of
every other daedric lord and their mortal
faithful - such as Lom (beholden to Lilith)
both outside of his borders as trade
partners and nominal allies and those powers
within who would strive to cast ba'al
worship down in favor of their god.</div>
<div>By having that separation Nasoj can play
dieific politics much more easily.</div>
<div>It also keeps aedric faithful off of his
doorstep... more or less.</div>
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Date: 07/30/2013 5:37 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>
To: <a rel="nofollow"
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Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem <br>
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<div class="yiv5634832986moz-cite-prefix">Dragons
are awesome and cool. Thing is they are a
symbol of power. Those who use it tend to be
those who believe they are all powerful.
Probably powerful enough to actually command
dragons. Most of them usually end up
learning they aren't all that powerful when
they meet a dragon in person.<br>
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The only other time a dragon is used as a
symbol is if it's bestowed upon you. Usually
like a gift from a dragon, saying that your
allowed to use their image. In short, it's
like you've been accepted into their family
or under their protection. So if they allow
you, it's a great honor. If you do it
yourself, it can be seen as an insult to
some of them.<br>
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On 7/30/2013 3:41 PM, Ian Jones wrote:<br>
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sans-serif;font-size:13px;">But... I
like dragons. I know too many nice
dragons to throw them in with Nasoj!</span><br>
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Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Narwhal
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<div dir="ltr">I could draw it up once
somebody decides...</div>
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29, 2013 1:27 PM, "christian
okane" <<a rel="nofollow"
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we ever give Nasoj an
emblem or heraldic device?</div>
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