<div dir="ltr">Without Daedric or Dragonic elements, an emblem with entirely new imagery should be created. Something dark and twisted and sexy.</div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <<a href="mailto:mkguild-request@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-request@lists.integral.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send MKGuild mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild" target="_blank">http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:mkguild-request@lists.integral.org">mkguild-request@lists.integral.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:mkguild-owner@lists.integral.org">mkguild-owner@lists.integral.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MKGuild digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nasoj's emblem (Andrew Vineyard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:27:06 -0500 From: Andrew Vineyard <<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a> Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:51F9B96A.9090908@gmail.com">51F9B96A.9090908@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm forwarding this to help with out little discussion. yup ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Andrew Vineyard <<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> *To:* Ryx <<a href="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com">sundansyr@yahoo.com</a>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem Ah. Need someone to forward it to the mailing list? On 7/30/2013 7:29 PM, Ryx wrote: > No, it did not reply-all from my phone. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Andrew Vineyard <<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> > Date: 07/30/2013 6:56 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Ryx <<a href="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com">sundansyr@yahoo.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com">sundansyr@yahoo.com</a>> > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem > > > Was this sent to the mkguild mail list too? I didn't see it there. > > On 7/30/2013 6:13 PM, Ryx wrote: >> Considering dragons are very real in MK, and Nasoj is not >> currently allied with any nor has any in his service adopting a >> dragon on his heraldry might attract undue attention from dragons >> not pleased at his arrogance. >> >> I propose something of a different, more mystical, nature. >> Either a wyvern (identifiable as such by the scorpion stinger on >> the tail), or more fantasic still in the form of a three-headed >> chimeric beast similar to griffon heraldry of old. >> Each head would signify a different auspice: corporeal power, >> divine or infernal power (Ba'al's sole nod on the heraldry), and >> arcane power. Secondary heraldric symbols might be used as well >> to denote Nasoj's House, which is pretty much that exact symbol >> since whatever the Dark Keep was before his ascension has been >> effectively wiped out entirely. >> >> Nasoj would not be foolish enough to put a daedric symbol >> directly on his kingdom's heraldry as that would incur the wrath >> of every other daedric lord and their mortal faithful - such as >> Lom (beholden to Lilith) both outside of his borders as trade >> partners and nominal allies and those powers within who would >> strive to cast ba'al worship down in favor of their god. >> By having that separation Nasoj can play dieific politics much >> more easily. >> It also keeps aedric faithful off of his doorstep... more or less. >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Andrew Vineyard <<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com">dimensional42@gmail.com</a>> >> Date: 07/30/2013 5:37 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: <a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a>> >> Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem >> >> >> Dragons are awesome and cool. Thing is they are a symbol of >> power. Those who use it tend to be those who believe they are all >> powerful. Probably powerful enough to actually command dragons. >> Most of them usually end up learning they aren't all that >> powerful when they meet a dragon in person. >> >> The only other time a dragon is used as a symbol is if it's >> bestowed upon you. Usually like a gift from a dragon, saying that >> your allowed to use their image. In short, it's like you've been >> accepted into their family or under their protection. So if they >> allow you, it's a great honor. If you do it yourself, it can be >> seen as an insult to some of them. >> >> On 7/30/2013 3:41 PM, Ian Jones wrote: >>> But... I like dragons. I know too many nice dragons to throw >>> them in with Nasoj! >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Narwhal KillerNarwhal >>> <<a href="mailto:supernova619@gmail.com">supernova619@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:supernova619@gmail.com">supernova619@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: >>> >>> I could draw it up once somebody decides... >>> On Jul 29, 2013 1:27 PM, "christian okane" >>> <<a href="mailto:chrisokane@optimum.net">chrisokane@optimum.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chrisokane@optimum.net">chrisokane@optimum.net</a>>> wrote: >>> >>> Did we ever give Nasoj an emblem or heraldic device? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MKGuild mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a>> >>> <a href="http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild" target="_blank">http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild</a> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MKGuild mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a>> >>> <a href="http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild" target="_blank">http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild</a> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MKGuild mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org">MKGuild@lists.integral.org</a>> >>> <a href="http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild" target="_blank">http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild</a> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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