<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>That would be 'Cry Havoc' wherein Misha goes one on one against the Lutin commander of Stepping Rock bastion.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>And as well: Murikeer versus Thorne from the Winter Assault.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>If you wish to go with the nobility and major character scene it would probably be best to frame it around a table - A council session, since most if not all of the named characters are members of the council of advisers. Brian Avery would likely be there as well. Point of view opposite Thomas; viewing a horse-shoe shaped great table around which the counselors sit or stand depending on the mood of their character (and the topic of discussion).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Perhaps the view would be the back of whomever addresses the council - Brian Avery as mentioned, perhaps, making some petition. Or even Charles Matthias doing the same (after all, I don't think anyone has seen the rat's back before.)</span></div><div style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>This would require a rather large canvas or even triptych to bring the scene together without casting all but the central duo or quartet out of primary focus. (Thomas with Misha to his right, Alberta to his left, with Malger to her left as a diplomat). Avery and Matthias would be to the Duke's right as direct liege men and landed nobles. I am not sure who would be to the Duchess' left beyond Malger. As this would be a council session and not the seating used during a court dinner rank may play less a roll than geographic proximity (people whose land is near to one another would sit near one another), leaving
Malger's position solely diplomatic as he holds no land in Metamor and speaks purely in the role of diplomat. Murikeer's land is a pittance but he is the Duke's chief adviser concerning Magic within the land - eschewing any guilds (all speak through Murikeer as he is guildless and objective). Sir George could possibly supplant Misha's position or sit rather close as commander of the Duke's armies (The Long Scouts fall under the overarching military chain of command in time of conflict).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Position in proximity to the ruler or highest ranking noble/royal was of extreme importance in medieval court - public or private - thus some consideration would have to be made about each character's rank, and role within the Duchy, unless we wish to just cast that out for a 'shove the
biggest players on canvas' approach.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Heh... and if you wanted Drift/Carcarak in there *HE* would be the one supplicating himself in the center of the council's regard...<br></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:40 PM, Nathan Pfaunmiller <azariahwolf@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div
class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3866172945"><div><div>While I think it's a cool idea to do family pictures of the Sutt household, the Hassan household, or the Matthias household, part of my aim here was to have characters drawn together who might not otherwise have an opportunity to do so, as well as to illustrate the characters who have made great impact on the universe, or are currently active.</div><div><br></div><div>My ideas would be more along the lines of:</div><div><br></div><div>Key (current) characters: Thomas in the center, flanked by Charles, a little stone visible on his form, Misha, possibly with Madog, Drift (perhaps with Carcarack hidden in shadow between a couple of characters), Malger, and probably Dupre, due to his upcoming relevance.</div><div><br></div><div>Couples: Thomas and Alberta in the center, with him holding her close and smiling tenderly, then flanked to either side of them have Misha with Caroline and Charles with
Kimberly and company. From there we could also add Malger with Misanthe, Rickkter with Kayla, Jessica with Weyden, or Murikeer and Kozaithy. Since several of these couples come from common creators, we might be forced to play favorites.</div><div><br></div><div>Key NPCs: (A bit complicated since, by definition, no one owns them). Thomas, Copernicus, Coe, George, Andwyn, Donnie...</div><div><br></div><div>Warriors: Misha, Charles, Rickkter, Wolfram, George, Lois...</div><div><br></div><div>Mages: Jessica, Nestorius, Xavier, Rickkter, Murikeer...</div><div><br></div><div>Villains: Loriod, Nasoj (possibly fulfilling the "evil overlooker" trope by being just a tight-focussed pair of eyes in the background), the Marquis, a Lutin shaman, a Druzhina...</div><div><br></div><div>Duel pics: Provided authors were all right with potential minor spoilers, have an individual character paired in a battle situation with their nemesis. Again
complicated by both characters being owned by the same person, but we could get some things like: James vs Zagrosek (LTOY), Carcarack vs Revonos (FWtBT), Misha vs the keep commander (forget the story), etc.</div><div><br></div><div>One last thing I've batted around doing for my own characters is "ghost of the past" pics. With the focus on a single Cursed character, have their Pre-Curse form, looking somewhat illusionary, standing to the side, either watching them or mimicking the pose of their post-Curse form.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, no, it isn't likely we'll be able to do any large number of these quickly, so we would have to choose our priorities. Still, doing a variety of them gives us an opportunity to give the universe some added cohesion.</div><div><br></div><div>-LurkingWolf</div><div><br>On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:50, Ryx <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:sundansyr@yahoo.com">sundansyr@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Too many - the scene would get massively overcrowded rather quickly.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Better: Thomas, Artela, & their children (perhaps). Any others involved with such scene should be courtiers or direct ducal counselors (Thalberg, Maria, ect) or the work should be more a portrait of the ducal line.<br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old
style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Personally more than six to eight would get unweildy in the relatively limited canvas size we'll be requesting.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>As for myself</span> as I scrape together the funds and line up an artist:</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Muri, Kozaithy, Rickkter,
Kayla, & Jessica (Mage
coterie)</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Malger, Misanthe, and their children (Sutt family portrait in classical noble style).<br></div><div class="yiv3866172945qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display:block;" class="yiv3866172945yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:10 PM, Nathan Pfaunmiller <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:azariahwolf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:azariahwolf@gmail.com">azariahwolf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;">
<br><br> <div class="yiv3866172945y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3866172945"><div><div>By the way, if anyone wants a good single character
commission, SabretoothedErmine is open until tomorrow. Doesn't look like she has group rates, but her single character stuff is great.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-LurkingWolf</div><div class="yiv3866172945yqt7447884992" id="yiv3866172945yqt89334"><div><br clear="none">On Sep 2, 2014, at 13:20, christian okane <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chrisokane@optimum.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:chrisokane@optimum.net">chrisokane@optimum.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv3866172945yqt7447884992" id="yiv3866172945yqt10372"><style>#yiv3866172945 --
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#yiv3866172945 </style><div><div class="yiv3866172945WordSection1"><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">We need to know what the character looks like.</span></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Chris</span></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">The Lurking Fox</span></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org" target="_blank"
href="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org">mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org</a> [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org">mailto:mkguild-bounces@lists.integral.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>M vd Mosselaar Leo M Panther<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 01, 2014 5:03 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Metamor Keep<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mkguild] Group picture</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">That’s not quite what I meant with reference.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">I meant more like those character reference sheets that are sometimes posted on FA.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">Where a character’s build is layed out. Height,
width, depth. Colourization, fur/scale pattern, tail stance. Maybe some typical facial expressions and a common set of clothes (where applicable).</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">I’ve never petitioned an artist to do a picture before so I don’t know how much detail they need for a project such as this.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dimensional42@gmail.com" title="dimensional42@gmail.com">Andrew Vineyard</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"
style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Monday, September 01, 2014 9:34 PM</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org" title="mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Re: [Mkguild] Group picture</span></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="">There are some pictures of various
characters on the archive. One of the recent ones is a cartoony like picture of Matthias getting pushed over a wall while wearing knight armor. Suppose to reference an old child's movie or something.</span></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">On 9/1/2014 2:05 PM, M vd Mosselaar Leo M Panther wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">Sounds like a good line up to start the series.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">Do we have a good descriptive references for all those characters?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span style="">If not, what does an artist need to know to get these characters right?</span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv3866172945MsoNormal"><span
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