<div dir="ltr">Just a few points I'd like to add;<div><br></div><div>You should be able to access the link if you're a member of the <b>TSA-Talk mailing list</b>. It's the <b>TSA-Talk mailing list</b> archive. The sign-in page requires the email address and password that you used to sign-up for the <b>TSA-Talk mailing list</b>. </div><div><br></div><div>I posted this link because although the story has many non-cannon elements, I thought it would be a good idea to see how Malisa's creator intended her to be. </div><div><br></div><div>The biggest issue with the story is it basically outright states that anyone with the TG curse can switch between genders while explaining the reason Malisa can't. It also talks about portals to other universes. There were a few other little details of questionable canonicity as well. </div><div><br></div><div>Calling herself Matt isn't just a throwback to her male name; it's an important part of her character. She despises her sex change so much that she tries to do everything she possibly can to remain masculine; she uses what little control over the curse she has to force her breasts as small as possible; she cuts her hair short; she wears men's clothes; she exercises for hours at a time to maintain a more masculine figure; and she has everyone refer to her as Matt or Matthew. She is referred to as Matt 112 times and Matthew 31 times in the story. She's only referred to as Malisa once. </div><div><br></div><div>That particular story was posted November 27th only five days after the original Metamor Keep story was posted. (looks like Metamor Keep just celebrated it's 17th birthday last Saturday. We should really make some sort of effort to point out the anniversary every year. (Metamor Keep was posted to the TSA-Talk list on Saturday, November 22nd 1997.)) A lot of stories from the first two weeks had issues especially because it took a while for Copernicus to lay down the rules for the setting. Even Copernicus's second story (an attempt to fix a continuity error) was later declared non-canon when the original reason for the continuity error was retconned. </div><div><br></div><div>I found the rest of Winc's (Mal's, Matt's, Matthew's, Malisa's (wow, that's almost as many names as Hawl has)) stories in the Distant Voices arc and Metamor Keep universe. I can't comment on them as I haven't read them yet. </div><div><br></div><div>The Team</div><div>Part 1 <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-November/019217.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-November/019217.html</a></div><div>Part 2 <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-November/019282.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-November/019282.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Midtown</div><div>Part 1 <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019474.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019474.html</a></div><div>Part 2 <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019475.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019475.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Three days after Midtown was posted, <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019740.html">Winc left the TSA-Talk mailing list</a>, and asked for someone to take over Malisa and her story line. I don't know if anyone ever did, but there's nothing in the official archive about this story line so for all practical purposes the answer is no. </div><div><br></div><div>Scratch that, Winc came back a month later, re-posted an edited version of <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1998-January/020564.html">Distant Voices</a>, posted <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1998-April/023181.html">some notes on the storyline</a>, posted <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1998-April/023180.html">three</a> <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1998-April/023182.html">more</a> <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1998-April/023183.html">parts</a>, <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1999-February/032546.html">changed names again, and promised to post more MK</a>, and that's as much as I've found so far. </div><div><br></div><div>Also, I found a bit more on Jenn:</div><div><br></div><div>Character info: <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019324.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019324.html</a></div><div>Story: The Alchemy of Love (Part 1) <a href="http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019323.html">http://lists.integral.org/private/tsa-talk/1997-December/019323.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>I didn't find a second part to Alchemy of love. </div><div><br></div><div>I hope this was helpful, or informative, or at least not too confusing,</div><div>-AlexSurikat</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Azariah Wolf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:azariahwolf@gmail.com" target="_blank">azariahwolf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I strongly object to you using your own stories as grounds for
determining the canonicity of a story. If you had left it at
"people can change between genders", which I can neither confirm nor
deny because I can't access the story in question, maybe I'd go
easier on you, but your second paragraph goes on to basically
proclaim your stories as gospel canon by stating that the character
has long black hair and large breasts. Alex already stated that
yours are the only stories where these details are mentioned outside
of Distant Voices, and I'm more inclined to go with what appears to
have been an origin story than with what you added seven years later
from personal preference.<br>
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Also, having the character called Matt is likely as much a callback
to her male name, and thus has no bearing on whether or not this
story is canon.<br>
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Considering that the archive dates this story at some time in 1997,
I would say that the oddity of letting people change genders is most
likely a misunderstanding of what was at that time a new story
universe. I move to consider the description of the character in
the story as canon, while leaving the story itself outside of canon
due to this misunderstanding.<br>
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-LurkingWolf<div><div><br>
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<div>On 11/26/2014 4:24 AM,
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Alex brought this story to our attention, I previously didn't
know the tale existed and I don't think many of us did. I vote
that it's added to the non-canon section. I haven't finished
reading it, but in it some people afflicted with the curse can
change to and from the two sexes, which is not the case in the
series proper.<br>
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Additionally, Malisa's physical appearance is different than
what it's been listed in the canon events (Small breasts, short
brown hair Vs. Large Breasts, long black hair) and finally she
goes by Matt instead of Malisa.<br>
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Incidentally, I do find it interesting that a few elements of
Malisa's character that I thought I had made up are in this
story. Eh, not quite sure what to make of it.<br>
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All in favor?<br>
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