<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> That's the only issue I recall, but then I'm not on ICR and I missed out on the bulk of the issues. Plus, it was many, many years ago. I remain curious that explicit violence is welcomed (in general, in the USA, not to imply that you are all blood thirsty monsters) under PG-13 while sex is not so much (again, in general for the USA, not to imply that you are all prudes, because I know better). This isn't a sexual story. If I did it right, it should produce horror. I tried to make it lighter, I really did, but it made multiple acts of rape seem like the punchline to a joke. I could not do that. I'm sure that's not very reassuring to your concerns, but I'm going to play the "art card." You know I love Metamor Keep and you've always had a special place in my heart, but sometimes you have to answer to the story above all else. -Bill aka Greyflank <div>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:44:01 -0400 > To: sundansyr@yahoo.com; greyflank@hotmail.com; chrisokane@optimum.net; mkguild@lists.integral.org > From: jagille3@vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Mkguild] It's quiet > > I concur with Ryx in this regard. Same sex relationships are not new > to Metamor given the vagaries of the Curse. That wasn't really the > issue with your first stories anyway. > > If Metamor Keep is getting more exposure, we do not want it to be X > rated exposure. Such exposure reflects badly on Metamor Keep and all > we have worked to build. > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > Charles Matthias > > At 08:10 AM 8/10/2015, Ryx wrote: > >Don't have any tetch whatsoever about the intimate proclivities of > >any character in Metamor... I play merry havoc with them on a > >regular basis (Malger Sutt most notably - gives not a whit about the > >gender of those he bedded before he was married. Sir Egland and > >Intoran. Others). Don't care, roll with it. > > > >Just keep the clothes on and the unclothed bits 'off screen' as much > >as possible. Unless I'm mistaken Mathias has come the absolute > >closest to an on-screen love scene and it lasted a sum of two > >sentences. That's the way Metamor grew, and grows, and should stay > >that way as much as possible. > > > >I would rather not have to put any more emphasis on the matter. > > > > > > > > > >On Monday, August 10, 2015 7:01 AM, Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank > ><greyflank@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >I totally understand your point and I've always try to make sure the > >story itself can survive being translated into a "TV version." > > > >But since, for a few people, the mere appearance of a homosexual > >before the curse was laid upon him made Wheeler's story too adult > >for MK, I've decided to ignore all this concern. You'll recall, > >once finished and satisfied with my version of the story, I would > >work on a cannon version story. > > > >In this case, I will have to wait 6 months. > > > >Explicitness, you might recall also, does not always equal > >smut. I've written smut, too, so I know. In this case, I am > >playing with the TG curse on a hardened soldier, but it's only one > >pivotal scene. I could have written it less explicitly (I will, in > >fact, rewrite it less so later, barring another episode of an > >extended stay of hiding beneath my bed), but I wanted the impact of > >how the counter curse could be used. > > > >Not looking to change MK into anything but what it is. And, if you > >have any stats or articles about people discovering Fifty Shades of > >Grey and then making their way into Twilight I would serious love to > >see those, because I am a curious pony. > > > >Anyway, I guess this is a good time to announce that The Good Sport, > >also a MK story with same sex attraction and blood and death, will > >be in An Anthropomorphic Century this fall/winter. MK survived when > >that came out; it will survive this story. > > > >-Bill > > > > > >---------- > >Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:28:19 +0000 > >From: sundansyr@yahoo.com > >To: greyflank@hotmail.com; chrisokane@optimum.net; mkguild@lists.integral.org > >Subject: Re: [Mkguild] It's quiet > > > >I would beg to disagree, as I do each time the subject comes > >up. I'm one to write a good bit of smut - it moves, people read it > >- but Metamor does not need that aspect in any association that the > >public will come across. Adult Fur Fiction can be found in > >countless locations and I would rather this setting not be among them. > >Putting it forward in a public venue like a convention as a part of > >the official material or secondary examples in panels will paint the > >wrong picture to those who may have never heard of MK. > >Just like the bubble-head who wrote the Shades of Gray series first > >as a fanfic of the cancerous Twilight tripe - she simply changed the > >names and went with it. If you really want to bring MK into an > >adult venue - please change the name of the setting. > > > >This is my voice of contention and does not represent anyone else in > >the setting, though I suspect Mathias may agree with my stance. > > > > > > > >On Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:30 PM, "greyflank@hotmail.com" > ><greyflank@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >Official stories are PG, otherwise its for everyone at every > >level. We have this conversation every few years. Metamor Keep is > >above all else inclusive... As long as no one beats C at pool, we are good. > > > >*Greyflank > > > >Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > > > > >------ Original message------ > >From: Ryx > >Date: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 7:24 PM > >To: Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank;christian okane;'Metamor Keep'; > >Subject:Re: [Mkguild] It's quiet > > > >'Very adult'? Care to explain? > >Metamor Keep is PG-13, not R, not X. It's intended for all readers > >of all ages. Please keep that in mind. > > > > > > > > > >On Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:32 AM, Bill Kieffer aka Greyflank > ><greyflank@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >I have a very adult Metamor Keep story coming out in the Rain > >Furrest collection this year... > > > >I'm hoping that will make some noise. > > > >Greyflank, the Typing Horse > > > > > >---------- > >Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 13:45:59 -0400 > >From: chrisokane@optimum.net > >To: MKGuild@lists.integral.org > >Subject: [Mkguild] It's quiet > > > > It's quiet - TOO quiet. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ MKGuild mailing list > >MKGuild@lists.integral.org http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > >_______________________________________________ > >MKGuild mailing list > ><mailto:MKGuild@lists.integral.org>MKGuild@lists.integral.org > >http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >MKGuild mailing list > >MKGuild@lists.integral.org > >http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > </div> </div></body> </html>