<div dir="ltr">For what it's worth, Xhyz (Pascal's assistant in my stories) is from Fan Shoar and practices Shamanstic magicks</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mkguild-request@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-request@lists.integral.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send MKGuild mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Fan Shoar (Bryce Glover)<br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Bryce Glover <<a href="mailto:randomdsdevel@gmail.com">randomdsdevel@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "Indagare ." <<a href="mailto:brenner.mike@gmail.com">brenner.mike@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: MKGuild <<a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 19:09:20 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Fan Shoar<br><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 25, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Indagare . <<a href="mailto:brenner.mike@gmail.com" target="_blank">brenner.mike@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-3946658325467642864Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px">>Ooh, I was thinking about possibly using something along these lines of this Tigrest people you describe here in a story when I eventually got around to writing one for Metamor Keep! (Well, I was if MK ended up as the setting the story landed in, of course.) I’d be particularly interested in exploring the life of at least one individual with close relations in multiple tribes, to use the societal structure given here, and that regardless of whether and when I, personally, write such a story. (I have a few other ideas, but I’ll save them for another time.) </div></div><div><br></div><div>The Tigmest are based on the actual Northwest Native American tribes. …</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> That’s to be expected based on the real-world territory that their homeland is based on, of course. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>…But if you want to use mine, I’d be very flattered. Either way, it sounds like an interesting story potential!</div></div></div></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div> Thanks, and you’re welcome in advance! It’ll probably be <i>quite</i> a while until I get to putting anything together in this regard, though, as it’s been about three years since I promised those on the main TSA-Talk mailing list a somewhat major story arc in one of the settings discussed there — you may have seen me mention parts of it there once or twice and thus know which one I mean, but I won’t reiterate that explicitly here unless you ask since it’s off-topic for <i>this</i> list — and haven’t gotten much work done on it in that time at <i>all</i>, so I obviously have an obligation to post at least the <i>beginning</i> of that first. </div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>><span style="font-size:12.8px"> I was thinking about involving a Keeper as something of a mentor, at least in magic, to the main character, but this would make it so that former individual wouldn’t have to hail from quite so far away, so thanks! </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I’m glad you like it!</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div> Again, you’re welcome! It’s always useful to be able to build off of pre-existing material, anyway. </div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div>>><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px">I made a rough map for the western continents:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">> Hey, that looks kind of like the British Isles! </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">In full disclosure, it's just the other half of the political map colored in: <a href="http://transform.to/~ravenb/pics/mkworld_political.jpg" target="_blank">http://transform.to/~<wbr>ravenb/pics/mkworld_political.<wbr>jpg</a> I don't have whatever graphics were used to make the western half and I wanted to keep it simple in case anyone wanted to see changes.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">-Indy</span></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote><div><br></div><div> Still, that’s an interesting coincidence or reuse of existing topology, whatever the reason behind it. </div><div><br></div><div><div>Regards, </div><div> WhenCatsFoxesandWolvesFly/<wbr>RandomDSdevel</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Bryce Glover <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:randomdsdevel@gmail.com" target="_blank">randomdsdevel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>(<i>snipped…</i>)</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Bryce Glover <<a href="mailto:randomdsdevel@gmail.com">randomdsdevel@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Indagare <<a href="mailto:brenner.mike@gmail.com">brenner.mike@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: MKGuild <<a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 19:35:18 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Fan Shoar<br><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>One last thing, Indagare: </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:30 PM, <a href="mailto:mkguild-request@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-request@lists.<wbr>integral.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="m_-7631028958671532596Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Shamanistic magic is highly developed in Fan Shoar, though it is different from that of Galendor. It includes much more alchemy and the use of familiar spirits (generally small, elemental beings that take on the shape of an animal) is common. Shamans in Fan Shoar can produce a wider variety of effects than most in Galendor can accomplish because they can also detect raw magic and regularly treat with elemental spirits who are sometimes considered members of a given empire or tribe and who often align themselves in defense. Extreme care is taken when dealing with any extrapljnar being, however, particularly those from the Heavens and Hells.</span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><br><div> You <i>know</i>, now that I <i>think</i> about it, a set of magic techniques like this bears a certain partial resemblance to the <a href="http://codexalera.wikia.com/wiki/Furies" target="_blank">‘furycrafting’ </a>system used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butcher" target="_blank">Jim Butcher</a>’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alera" target="_blank"><i>Codex Alera</i> series</a>, which I just started reading while eating for the next book in that same author’s <a href="http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/cinder-spires" target="_blank"><i>The Cinder Spires</i> series</a>, though odds are that other franchises could have implemented something similar even though I don’t know about it/them personally. In any case, have you thought about letting Tigmest magicians involve some of the totems, personal or otherwise, that are part of their culture when they cast spells? I imagine they might be able to use them as mystical focal points and energy stores, similarly to how other settings might contain magical artifacts usable in one or both of those ways. </div><div><br></div><div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div>Intrigued and curious, </div><div> WhenCatsFoxesandWolvesFly/<wbr>RandomDSdevel</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Bryce Glover <<a href="mailto:randomdsdevel@gmail.com">randomdsdevel@gmail.com</a>><br>To: MKGuild <<a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 19:36:17 -0500<br>Subject: [Mkguild] Fwd: Fan Shoar<br><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Whoops, forgot to CC this to the list: <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="m_-4424299484272735115Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Bryce Glover <<a href="mailto:RandomDSdevel@gmail.com" target="_blank">RandomDSdevel@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: Fan Shoar</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">November 26, 2017 at 7:35:18 PM EST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Indagare <<a href="mailto:brenner.mike@gmail.com" target="_blank">brenner.mike@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">MKGuild <<a href="mailto:mkguild@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild@lists.integral.org</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>One last thing, Indagare: </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:30 PM, <a href="mailto:mkguild-request@lists.integral.org" target="_blank">mkguild-request@lists.<wbr>integral.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4424299484272735115Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Shamanistic magic is highly developed in Fan Shoar, though it is different from that of Galendor. It includes much more alchemy and the use of familiar spirits (generally small, elemental beings that take on the shape of an animal) is common. Shamans in Fan Shoar can produce a wider variety of effects than most in Galendor can accomplish because they can also detect raw magic and regularly treat with elemental spirits who are sometimes considered members of a given empire or tribe and who often align themselves in defense. Extreme care is taken when dealing with any extrapljnar being, however, particularly those from the Heavens and Hells.</span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">⋮</blockquote></div><br><div> You <i>know</i>, now that I <i>think</i> about it, a set of magic techniques like this bears a certain partial resemblance to the <a href="http://codexalera.wikia.com/wiki/Furies" target="_blank">‘furycrafting’ </a>system used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butcher" target="_blank">Jim Butcher</a>’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alera" target="_blank"><i>Codex Alera</i> series</a>, which I just started reading while eating for the next book in that same author’s <a href="http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/cinder-spires" target="_blank"><i>The Cinder Spires</i> series</a>, though odds are that other franchises could have implemented something similar even though I don’t know about it/them personally. In any case, have you thought about letting Tigmest magicians involve some of the totems, personal or otherwise, that are part of their culture when they cast spells? I imagine they might be able to use them as mystical focal points and energy stores, similarly to how other settings might contain magical artifacts usable in one or both of those ways. </div><div><br></div><div>
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div>Intrigued and curious, </div><div> WhenCatsFoxesandWolvesFly/<wbr>RandomDSdevel</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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