[Mkguild] Crime and Punishment

[Hallan Mirayas]

Okay, Bard, there's something I have to ask:  Are there not enough beasty u=
glies already available in the setting, that you feel you have to import Lo=
vecraft wholesale?  Why do you want to change the entire underpinnings of t=
he Metamor
Keep story universe?  Because that's what you're proposing to do.  If you g=
o ahead with the Cthulu cult, and -if- your story is declared canon and not=
 a Metamor-Lovecraft "what-if" crossover, then that opens the door for all =
the other Lovecraftian horrors.  Think over what you're doing, Bard.  I am =
absolutely certain there are beasts already available within the Metamor Ke=
ep pantheon that could serve just as well as an imported Elder God.

Hallan

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:58:16 -0700
From: sundansyr at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Crime and Punishment
To: mwbard at transform.to; mkguild at lists.integral.org

For executing citizens of Metamor due process within the courts to verify a=
ny criminal action was undertaken by the deceased, Yvarra has violated the =
most basic tenents of law, and both existing faiths.
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Execution for murder would be in order.
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Evidence of a *sigh* Cthulu cult in the catacombs of Metamor would go no wh=
ere when it comes to clearing her of the 60+ murders that occurred in the p=
rivate living quarters (i.e. beds) of the slain.  Those slaughtered in the =
activity of summoning said *sigh* cthuluan beastie are, de facto, enemies o=
f Metamor and no criminal action would come of their deaths.
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With no evidenciary proof found during the intervening investigation(s) of =
those murders (any of which could have left more than enough evidence to ge=
t Yvarra locked up solidly in the Dungeons) that the deceased were involved=
 with the goings-on beneath the Keep (and Kyia unawares??) then the murders=
 would stand as crimes, not the elimination of enemy combatants.
Needless to say, 60 deaths would raise a very loud protest from the citizen=
s of metamor to find the responsible parties, especially if they happened o=
ver a small period of time.  It is rather illogical that they would go unno=
ticed or unremarked upon.  That many deaths would be such news it would be =
heard at a random streetcorners throughout the Euper, Metamor Town (Keeptow=
ne), and the Keep itself.
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Thus, in my view, Yvarra should at the very least be banished forthwith fro=
m the borders of the Northern Midlands never to return on pain of swift exe=
cution.  At the most she should be placed on the executioner's block and pu=
t to death.
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So sayeth I.

--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Michael Bard <bard.michael at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Michael Bard <bard.michael at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Crime and Punishment
To: mkguild at lists.integral.org
Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 11:43 AM





This started as idle speculation, but I guess I need some specifics to get =
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Okay, due to lack of any other idea of getting at the cult, and because she=
 has reasonable proof that the Sword of Songs can detect cultists, Yvarra g=
oes from house to house full of sleeping cult families and slaughters them =
in their bed.
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The individual cultists have not done anything directly against her.  They =
were not actively engaged in attacking her -- they were sleeping when a sil=
ent thief/assasin slit their throats.  Now, the cult itself, as an organiza=
tion, is actively working to capture/kill Yvarra along with summoning an El=
dar God to destroy the world.
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Of course, there is no proof of this, and to everybody else at the keep, th=
e whole idea of this "cult" is a laughable myth.
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So...
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Case 1: Yvarra is caught by the watch before the Elder God (Cthulhu) is sum=
moned.  She has been murdering cultists in their bed in her own private war=
 without any proof.  Magic does not work to detect the truthfulness of her =
statements due to her alicorn.  There is no factual proof of her allegation=
s, the cult is believed to be a laughable myth.  So, to the Duke, there is =
hard evidence that she has slaughtered 60+ people, in their beds, for an un=
verifiable reason that is widely disbelieved and/or ridiculed by his adviso=
rs.
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Case 2: Yvarra eventually destroys said cult, finding her way into their la=
ir, etc. etc.  Lots of secret battles in the crypts far beneath Metamor.  L=
ots of dead cultists. At the end of it, she can show the authorities the cr=
ypts, possibly show what seems some kind of chamber set up for an unholy ar=
cane ritual.  But, no ritual occurred.  So, to the Duke, there is hard evid=
ence she has slaughtered 60+ people, in their beds, for an almost unverifia=
ble reason that is widely disbelieved and/or ridiculed by his advisors.  Th=
e only "verification" are the crypts, and a possible chamber set up for an =
unholy arcane ritual.
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Case 3: Yvarra eventually destroys said cult, finding her way into their la=
ir, etc. etc.  The final destruction occurs during the actual summoning, wi=
th the aid of a member of the Long Scouts.  The member of the Long Scouts c=
an report that something REALLY BAD was being summoned by a group hidden wi=
thin Metamor, and that through her actions, which he witnessed, the summoni=
ng was halted at the last moment.  So, to the Duke, there is hard evidence =
that she has slaughtered 60+ people, in their beds.  There was a cult of so=
me kind hidden beneath his hooves that did try to do something *REALLY BAD*=
 and that Yvarra did stop them doing said *REALLY BAD* thing.  This act has=
 a reliable witness.  However, there is still only Yvarra's word that the 6=
0+ people she murdered with cultists.  There was no evidence in support of =
this recovered by the Euper Watch.
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So, in each of these hypothetical cases, what does the Duke do to Yvarra to=
 punish her for her "crimes", if he does anything at all, if they are even =
"crimes".  NOTE: Yvarra does NOT deny that she killed the 60+ cultists in q=
uestion.
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