[Mkguild] Group picture

[christian okane]

Some good ideas there.

 

  I think the first pic should : Thomas, Copernicus, Coe, George, Andwyn, Donnie, Phil  - ass they are important characters who haven't really been done before!

 

 

From: mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org [mailto:mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org] On Behalf Of Ryx
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:05 PM
To: Metamor Keep
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Group picture

 

Yeah... the list server shut me out because of failed deliveries, too.

 

It's probably the way yahoo is mangling these messages.  EXTREMELY poor thread management - compared to modern forum styles.

 

I can't even edit the overall post to eliminate earlier messages without causing absolute havoc.

 

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:13 PM, Nathan Pfaunmiller <azariahwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

 

Well, I was thinking more of a promotional poster sort of shot, like what you see on movie covers where the characters are all in the same picture regardless of whether such a scene actually occurs or not.  That said, setting up an actual scene isn't a bad idea, either.

 

BTW, the ipod Mail client is flagging your messages as spam.  Don't know if there's anything you can do to help on your end.

 

-LurkingWolf


On Sep 4, 2014, at 16:28, Ryx <sundansyr at yahoo.com> wrote:

That would be 'Cry Havoc' wherein Misha goes one on one against the Lutin commander of Stepping Rock bastion.

 

And as well:  Murikeer versus Thorne from the Winter Assault.

 

If you wish to go with the nobility and major character scene it would probably be best to frame it around a table - A council session, since most if not all of the named characters are members of the council of advisers.  Brian Avery would likely be there as well.  Point of view opposite Thomas; viewing a horse-shoe shaped great table around which the counselors sit or stand depending on the mood of their character (and the topic of discussion).

Perhaps the view would be the back of whomever addresses the council - Brian Avery as mentioned, perhaps, making some petition.  Or even Charles Matthias doing the same (after all, I don't think anyone has seen the rat's back before.)

 

This would require a rather large canvas or even triptych to bring the scene together without casting all but the central duo or quartet out of primary focus.  (Thomas with Misha to his right, Alberta to his left, with Malger to her left as a diplomat).  Avery and Matthias would be to the Duke's right as direct liege men and landed nobles.  I am not sure who would be to the Duchess' left beyond Malger.  As this would be a council session and not the seating used during a court dinner rank may play less a roll than geographic proximity (people whose land is near to one another would sit near one another), leaving Malger's position solely diplomatic as he holds no land in Metamor and speaks purely in the role of diplomat.  Murikeer's land is a pittance but he is the Duke's chief adviser concerning Magic within the land - eschewing any guilds (all speak through Murikeer as he is guildless and objective).  Sir George could possibly supplant Misha's position or sit rather close as commander of the Duke's armies (The Long Scouts fall under the overarching military chain of command in time of conflict).

Position in proximity to the ruler or highest ranking noble/royal was of extreme importance in medieval court - public or private - thus some consideration would have to be made about each character's rank, and role within the Duchy, unless we wish to just cast that out for a 'shove the biggest players on canvas' approach.

Heh... and if you wanted Drift/Carcarak in there *HE* would be the one supplicating himself in the center of the council's regard...

 

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:40 PM, Nathan Pfaunmiller <azariahwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

 

While I think it's a cool idea to do family pictures of the Sutt household, the Hassan household, or the Matthias household, part of my aim here was to have characters drawn together who might not otherwise have an opportunity to do so, as well as to illustrate the characters who have made great impact on the universe, or are currently active.

 

My ideas would be more along the lines of:

 

Key (current) characters: Thomas in the center, flanked by Charles, a little stone visible on his form, Misha, possibly with Madog, Drift (perhaps with Carcarack hidden in shadow between a couple of characters), Malger, and probably Dupre, due to his upcoming relevance.

 

Couples: Thomas and Alberta in the center, with him holding her close and smiling tenderly, then flanked to either side of them have Misha with Caroline and Charles with Kimberly and company.  From there we could also add Malger with Misanthe, Rickkter with Kayla, Jessica with Weyden, or Murikeer and Kozaithy.  Since several of these couples come from common creators, we might be forced to play favorites.

 

Key NPCs: (A bit complicated since, by definition, no one owns them). Thomas, Copernicus, Coe, George, Andwyn, Donnie...

 

Warriors: Misha, Charles, Rickkter, Wolfram, George, Lois...

 

Mages: Jessica, Nestorius, Xavier, Rickkter, Murikeer...

 

Villains: Loriod, Nasoj (possibly fulfilling the "evil overlooker" trope by being just a tight-focussed pair of eyes in the background), the Marquis, a Lutin shaman, a Druzhina...

 

Duel pics: Provided authors were all right with potential minor spoilers, have an individual character paired in a battle situation with their nemesis.  Again complicated by both characters being owned by the same person, but we could get some things like: James vs Zagrosek (LTOY), Carcarack vs Revonos (FWtBT), Misha vs the keep commander (forget the story), etc.

 

One last thing I've batted around doing for my own characters is "ghost of the past" pics.  With the focus on a single Cursed character, have their Pre-Curse form, looking somewhat illusionary, standing to the side, either watching them or mimicking the pose of their post-Curse form.

 

Finally, no, it isn't likely we'll be able to do any large number of these quickly, so we would have to choose our priorities.  Still, doing a variety of them gives us an opportunity to give the universe some added cohesion.

 

-LurkingWolf


On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:50, Ryx <sundansyr at yahoo.com> wrote:

Too many - the scene would get massively overcrowded rather quickly.

 

Better:  Thomas, Artela, & their children (perhaps).  Any others involved with such scene should be courtiers or direct ducal counselors (Thalberg, Maria, ect) or the work should be more a portrait of the ducal line.

 

Personally more than six to eight would get unweildy in the relatively limited canvas size we'll be requesting.

 

As for myself as I scrape together the funds and line up an artist:

Muri, Kozaithy, Rickkter, Kayla, & Jessica  (Mage coterie)

Malger, Misanthe, and their children (Sutt family portrait in classical noble style).

 

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:10 PM, Nathan Pfaunmiller <azariahwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

 

By the way, if anyone wants a good single character commission, SabretoothedErmine is open until tomorrow.  Doesn't look like she has group rates, but her single character stuff is great.

 

-LurkingWolf


On Sep 2, 2014, at 13:20, christian okane <chrisokane at optimum.net> wrote:

We need to know what the character looks like.

 

Chris

The Lurking Fox

 

 

From: mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org [mailto:mkguild-bounces at lists.integral.org] On Behalf Of M vd Mosselaar Leo M Panther
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:03 PM
To: Metamor Keep
Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Group picture

 

That’s not quite what I meant with reference.

I meant more like those character reference sheets that are sometimes posted on FA.

Where a character’s build is layed out. Height, width, depth. Colourization, fur/scale pattern, tail stance. Maybe some typical facial expressions and a common set of clothes (where applicable).

I’ve never petitioned an artist to do a picture before so I don’t know how much detail they need for a project such as this.

 

 

From: Andrew Vineyard <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 9:34 PM

To: mkguild at lists.integral.org 

Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Group picture

 

There are some pictures of various characters on the archive. One of the recent ones is a cartoony like picture of Matthias getting pushed over a wall while wearing knight armor. Suppose to reference an old child's movie or something.

On 9/1/2014 2:05 PM, M vd Mosselaar Leo M Panther wrote:

Sounds like a good line up to start the series.

Do we have a good descriptive references for all those characters?

If not, what does an artist need to know to get these characters right?

 

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