[Mkguild] Problems with the archive website

Alex Green alexsurikat at gmail.com
Sun Jul 19 15:26:19 UTC 2015


Looking around the site and seeing other pages render correctly leads me to
believe that the problem might just lie in the encoding of that particular
page in the database.

The odd thing is, I know at some point that page rendered correctly, as I
read all the stories up to "Dominion of the Hyacinth" off the archive.

-AlexSurikat

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Andrew Vineyard <dimensional42 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>  That was going to be my original thought, but when I looked at the files
> what I saw seemed to match with what I posted. I commented out the line
> that was having it encode as UTF-8, but it still rendered as that on my
> Firefox. I think there were a few changes to the browser that affected this
> too.
>
> On 7/19/2015 10:12 AM, Alex Green wrote:
>
> To me, it seems the issue is one of character encoding. The browser
> expects the data to be encoded as UTF-8, but it's actually being sent as
> iso-8859-1. If you have Firefox, go to view -> character encoding, and
> select western. The page renders as it's supposed to.
>
>  That's not to say that the line breaks shouldn't be there, but they've
> always been there. Removing them will make most of the diamonds disappear,
> but there are characters like the apostrophes that still won't render
> correctly.
>
>  I'm not sure what could have changed to cause this. Most likely the
> configurations for the web server have changed so that now the server is
> serving pages as UTF-8 where it use to be serving them as iso-8859-1.
> Although, when I look through the HTML, I see two separate meta tags. The
> first sets the character set as iso-8859-1, and the second changes it to
> UTF-8. Removing that second meta tag might fix the issue, but I don't have
> enough practical experience with HTML to know for sure.
>
>  -AlexSurikat
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Vineyard <dimensional42 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>  I've taken a look at the files. Apparently the files were uploaded with
>> line breaks where there aren't suppose to. That's what is causing the
>> issues. To give a good example, when I'm looking at the file, I'm seeing
>> that instead of having everything between the <p> </p> on the same line,
>> where you see the "?" is where there's a line break in the file. It'll be a
>> big task to fix it all, do to the complexity.
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/2015 6:25 AM, C. Matthias wrote:
>>
>> I have a different issue with the Metamor Keep Archive.
>>
>> It appears that a lot of the stories are showing various special
>> characters as diamonds with "?" inside them.  This is extremely off-putting
>> and renders stories difficult to read.  I suspect some of them are quote
>> characters, en-dashes, and so forth.  This is showing up with both FireFox
>> and Safari.  It is especially bad in my story Inchoate Carillon, Inconstant
>> Cuckold.
>>
>> Somebody definitely ought to take a look into that!  It wasn't at all
>> like this two weeks ago the last time I checked.
>>
>> May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,
>>
>> Charles Matthias
>>
>> At 03:13 PM 7/18/2015, Virmir wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Yes, that was merely a google custom search page.  I'm sure the syntax
>> has changed throughout the years.  It looks like the service is still
>> offered, so it's probably just a matter of setting up a new one.
>> https://cse.google.com/cse/
>>
>> Regarding the domain, I do own and pay for metamorkeep.com.  This is no
>> big deal since it is a pittance, however if someone else more active in the
>> community would like to take up ownership, I certainly wouldn't have any
>> problem with that (I have like seven of these things anyway).  Whoever
>> takes it would have to promise to be super attentive and pay the bill on
>> time to avoid a transform.to situation though.  ;)
>>
>> Somewhat related--I actually have the domain pointing to my nameservers
>> before it goes to Xepher.  This gives us a little more control in case
>> people have their own sites or blogs and want to use a subdomain or
>> something. E.g. mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Alex Green < <alexsurikat at gmail.com>
>> alexsurikat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  The first problem Chris mentioned was a php error. A variable, Counter,
>> was being accessed before it had been defined. I haven't run into it, so it
>> looks like whatever caused it has gone away for now.Â
>>
>>  The second problem is that the search feature provided by Google has
>> stopped working. I haven't been able to figure this one out. At first
>> glance, it appears there is a lot of stuff in the search URL that shouldn't
>> be there, but even after deleting it and trying to manually rerun it, the
>> error persists. In that case, the reason it failed might be that the
>> account that the search feature was tied to has been deleted, but this is
>> all conjecture as I am totally unfamiliar with how Google's custom search
>> feature works.Â
>>
>>  It might be worth it to ask Virmir about this one as he set it up and
>> might remember how to do it again.Â
>>
>>  P.S. I find it funny that both Chris and my test searches were related
>> as we both searched for or respective species.Â
>>  -AlexSurikat
>>
>>  On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Andrew Vineyard <
>> dimensional42 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>  I'm looking at the site, but I'm not seeing anything wrong with it. I'm
>> getting access to it and everything. It may have been a slight hiccup in
>> the server engine. I'll still look into it and see what might be the
>> problem, but it appears that whatever was happening was simply a connection
>> error.
>>
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