[Mkguild] Problems with the archive website

Andrew Vineyard dimensional42 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 19 15:39:23 UTC 2015


It could also have something to do with how the files were built and
uploaded. Anyways, there's a nice extension for Firefox that allows you
to force the browser to display in a specific encoding. The extension is
called Charset Switcher.

On 7/19/2015 10:26 AM, Alex Green wrote:
> Looking around the site and seeing other pages render correctly leads
> me to believe that the problem might just lie in the encoding of that
> particular page in the database. 
>
> The odd thing is, I know at some point that page rendered correctly,
> as I read all the stories up to "Dominion of the Hyacinth" off the
> archive. 
>
> -AlexSurikat
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Andrew Vineyard
> <dimensional42 at gmail.com <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     That was going to be my original thought, but when I looked at the
>     files what I saw seemed to match with what I posted. I commented
>     out the line that was having it encode as UTF-8, but it still
>     rendered as that on my Firefox. I think there were a few changes
>     to the browser that affected this too.
>
>     On 7/19/2015 10:12 AM, Alex Green wrote:
>>     To me, it seems the issue is one of character encoding. The
>>     browser expects the data to be encoded as UTF-8, but it's
>>     actually being sent as iso-8859-1. If you have Firefox, go to
>>     view -> character encoding, and select western. The page renders
>>     as it's supposed to. 
>>
>>     That's not to say that the line breaks shouldn't be there, but
>>     they've always been there. Removing them will make most of the
>>     diamonds disappear, but there are characters like the apostrophes
>>     that still won't render correctly. 
>>
>>     I'm not sure what could have changed to cause this. Most likely
>>     the configurations for the web server have changed so that now
>>     the server is serving pages as UTF-8 where it use to be serving
>>     them as iso-8859-1. Although, when I look through the HTML, I see
>>     two separate meta tags. The first sets the character set as
>>     iso-8859-1, and the second changes it to UTF-8. Removing that
>>     second meta tag might fix the issue, but I don't have enough
>>     practical experience with HTML to know for sure. 
>>
>>     -AlexSurikat
>>
>>     On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Vineyard
>>     <dimensional42 at gmail.com <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I've taken a look at the files. Apparently the files were
>>         uploaded with line breaks where there aren't suppose to.
>>         That's what is causing the issues. To give a good example,
>>         when I'm looking at the file, I'm seeing that instead of
>>         having everything between the <p> </p> on the same line,
>>         where you see the "?" is where there's a line break in the
>>         file. It'll be a big task to fix it all, do to the complexity.
>>
>>
>>         On 7/19/2015 6:25 AM, C. Matthias wrote:
>>>         I have a different issue with the Metamor Keep Archive.
>>>
>>>         It appears that a lot of the stories are showing various
>>>         special characters as diamonds with "?" inside them.  This
>>>         is extremely off-putting and renders stories difficult to
>>>         read.  I suspect some of them are quote characters,
>>>         en-dashes, and so forth.  This is showing up with both
>>>         FireFox and Safari.  It is especially bad in my story
>>>         Inchoate Carillon, Inconstant Cuckold. 
>>>
>>>         Somebody definitely ought to take a look into that!  It
>>>         wasn't at all like this two weeks ago the last time I checked.
>>>
>>>         May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,
>>>
>>>         Charles Matthias
>>>
>>>         At 03:13 PM 7/18/2015, Virmir wrote:
>>>>         Hello!
>>>>
>>>>         Yes, that was merely a google custom search page.  I'm
>>>>         sure the syntax has changed throughout the years.  It
>>>>         looks like the service is still offered, so it's probably
>>>>         just a matter of setting up a new one.
>>>>         https://cse.google.com/cse/
>>>>
>>>>         Regarding the domain, I do own and pay for metamorkeep.com
>>>>         <http://metamorkeep.com>.  This is no big deal since it is
>>>>         a pittance, however if someone else more active in the
>>>>         community would like to take up ownership, I certainly
>>>>         wouldn't have any problem with that (I have like seven of
>>>>         these things anyway).  Whoever takes it would have to
>>>>         promise to be super attentive and pay the bill on time to
>>>>         avoid a transform.to <http://transform.to> situation
>>>>         though.  ;)
>>>>
>>>>         Somewhat related--I actually have the domain pointing to my
>>>>         nameservers before it goes to Xepher.  This gives us a
>>>>         little more control in case people have their own sites or
>>>>         blogs and want to use a subdomain or something. E.g.
>>>>         mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com
>>>>         <http://mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com>
>>>>
>>>>         On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Alex Green
>>>>         <alexsurikat at gmail.com <mailto:alexsurikat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             The first problem Chris mentioned was a php error. A
>>>>             variable, Counter, was being accessed before it had
>>>>             been defined. I haven't run into it, so it looks like
>>>>             whatever caused it has gone away for now.Â
>>>>
>>>>             The second problem is that the search feature provided
>>>>             by Google has stopped working. I haven't been able to
>>>>             figure this one out. At first glance, it appears there
>>>>             is a lot of stuff in the search URL that shouldn't be
>>>>             there, but even after deleting it and trying to
>>>>             manually rerun it, the error persists. In that case,
>>>>             the reason it failed might be that the account that the
>>>>             search feature was tied to has been deleted, but this
>>>>             is all conjecture as I am totally unfamiliar with how
>>>>             Google's custom search feature works.Â
>>>>
>>>>             It might be worth it to ask Virmir about this one as he
>>>>             set it up and might remember how to do it again.Â
>>>>
>>>>             P.S. I find it funny that both Chris and my test
>>>>             searches were related as we both searched for or
>>>>             respective species.Â
>>>>             -AlexSurikat
>>>>
>>>>             On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Andrew Vineyard
>>>>             <dimensional42 at gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 I'm looking at the site, but I'm not seeing
>>>>                 anything wrong with it. I'm getting access to it
>>>>                 and everything. It may have been a slight hiccup in
>>>>                 the server engine. I'll still look into it and see
>>>>                 what might be the problem, but it appears that
>>>>                 whatever was happening was simply a connection error.
>>>>
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