[Mkguild] Problems with the archive website
Andrew Vineyard
dimensional42 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 19 15:39:23 UTC 2015
It could also have something to do with how the files were built and
uploaded. Anyways, there's a nice extension for Firefox that allows you
to force the browser to display in a specific encoding. The extension is
called Charset Switcher.
On 7/19/2015 10:26 AM, Alex Green wrote:
> Looking around the site and seeing other pages render correctly leads
> me to believe that the problem might just lie in the encoding of that
> particular page in the database.
>
> The odd thing is, I know at some point that page rendered correctly,
> as I read all the stories up to "Dominion of the Hyacinth" off the
> archive.
>
> -AlexSurikat
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Andrew Vineyard
> <dimensional42 at gmail.com <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> That was going to be my original thought, but when I looked at the
> files what I saw seemed to match with what I posted. I commented
> out the line that was having it encode as UTF-8, but it still
> rendered as that on my Firefox. I think there were a few changes
> to the browser that affected this too.
>
> On 7/19/2015 10:12 AM, Alex Green wrote:
>> To me, it seems the issue is one of character encoding. The
>> browser expects the data to be encoded as UTF-8, but it's
>> actually being sent as iso-8859-1. If you have Firefox, go to
>> view -> character encoding, and select western. The page renders
>> as it's supposed to.
>>
>> That's not to say that the line breaks shouldn't be there, but
>> they've always been there. Removing them will make most of the
>> diamonds disappear, but there are characters like the apostrophes
>> that still won't render correctly.
>>
>> I'm not sure what could have changed to cause this. Most likely
>> the configurations for the web server have changed so that now
>> the server is serving pages as UTF-8 where it use to be serving
>> them as iso-8859-1. Although, when I look through the HTML, I see
>> two separate meta tags. The first sets the character set as
>> iso-8859-1, and the second changes it to UTF-8. Removing that
>> second meta tag might fix the issue, but I don't have enough
>> practical experience with HTML to know for sure.
>>
>> -AlexSurikat
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Vineyard
>> <dimensional42 at gmail.com <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I've taken a look at the files. Apparently the files were
>> uploaded with line breaks where there aren't suppose to.
>> That's what is causing the issues. To give a good example,
>> when I'm looking at the file, I'm seeing that instead of
>> having everything between the <p> </p> on the same line,
>> where you see the "?" is where there's a line break in the
>> file. It'll be a big task to fix it all, do to the complexity.
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/2015 6:25 AM, C. Matthias wrote:
>>> I have a different issue with the Metamor Keep Archive.
>>>
>>> It appears that a lot of the stories are showing various
>>> special characters as diamonds with "?" inside them. This
>>> is extremely off-putting and renders stories difficult to
>>> read. I suspect some of them are quote characters,
>>> en-dashes, and so forth. This is showing up with both
>>> FireFox and Safari. It is especially bad in my story
>>> Inchoate Carillon, Inconstant Cuckold.
>>>
>>> Somebody definitely ought to take a look into that! It
>>> wasn't at all like this two weeks ago the last time I checked.
>>>
>>> May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love,
>>>
>>> Charles Matthias
>>>
>>> At 03:13 PM 7/18/2015, Virmir wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that was merely a google custom search page. I'm
>>>> sure the syntax has changed throughout the years. It
>>>> looks like the service is still offered, so it's probably
>>>> just a matter of setting up a new one.
>>>> https://cse.google.com/cse/
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the domain, I do own and pay for metamorkeep.com
>>>> <http://metamorkeep.com>. This is no big deal since it is
>>>> a pittance, however if someone else more active in the
>>>> community would like to take up ownership, I certainly
>>>> wouldn't have any problem with that (I have like seven of
>>>> these things anyway). Whoever takes it would have to
>>>> promise to be super attentive and pay the bill on time to
>>>> avoid a transform.to <http://transform.to> situation
>>>> though. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Somewhat related--I actually have the domain pointing to my
>>>> nameservers before it goes to Xepher. This gives us a
>>>> little more control in case people have their own sites or
>>>> blogs and want to use a subdomain or something. E.g.
>>>> mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com
>>>> <http://mishablogsaboutmuffins.metamorkeep.com>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Alex Green
>>>> <alexsurikat at gmail.com <mailto:alexsurikat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The first problem Chris mentioned was a php error. A
>>>> variable, Counter, was being accessed before it had
>>>> been defined. I haven't run into it, so it looks like
>>>> whatever caused it has gone away for now.Â
>>>>
>>>> The second problem is that the search feature provided
>>>> by Google has stopped working. I haven't been able to
>>>> figure this one out. At first glance, it appears there
>>>> is a lot of stuff in the search URL that shouldn't be
>>>> there, but even after deleting it and trying to
>>>> manually rerun it, the error persists. In that case,
>>>> the reason it failed might be that the account that the
>>>> search feature was tied to has been deleted, but this
>>>> is all conjecture as I am totally unfamiliar with how
>>>> Google's custom search feature works.Â
>>>>
>>>> It might be worth it to ask Virmir about this one as he
>>>> set it up and might remember how to do it again.Â
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I find it funny that both Chris and my test
>>>> searches were related as we both searched for or
>>>> respective species.Â
>>>> -AlexSurikat
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Andrew Vineyard
>>>> <dimensional42 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:dimensional42 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at the site, but I'm not seeing
>>>> anything wrong with it. I'm getting access to it
>>>> and everything. It may have been a slight hiccup in
>>>> the server engine. I'll still look into it and see
>>>> what might be the problem, but it appears that
>>>> whatever was happening was simply a connection error.
>>>>
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